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this is the same crew that were saying they would never see taxes go up. we don't need every member in a republican party. we need 218 votes in the house for a reasonable package. and, you know, you have to watch for people to do, not just what they say. in the u.s. capitol, you can't walk in here with a grun. you can't walk in here with an assault weapon. over in the supreme court which says you have this unlimited right to have a gun, you can't walk in there with a gun. why should people walk sbhinto schools or movie theaters? that congress should provide for the american public. we know that guns can be dangerous in the wrong hands. that's why we have all of the rules and regulations and the security protections here. and we need to make sure that in our day care centers and our communities, we provide a better safety environment for our kirn. >> now, rooiyan, it seems like e republ lip cans, and i noticed the congressman said we don't need them all, some republicans do sound like they are more open to possible gun legislation more than some of the far
this is the same crew that were saying they would never see taxes go up. we don't need every member in a republican party. we need 218 votes in the house for a reasonable package. and, you know, you have to watch for people to do, not just what they say. in the u.s. capitol, you can't walk in here with a grun. you can't walk in here with an assault weapon. over in the supreme court which says you have this unlimited right to have a gun, you can't walk in there with a gun. why should people walk...
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extending long term unemployment benefits, bringing about tax cuts for small businesses and the middle class. he's had the american's people's interest at heart. and we were reminded of that again today. >> if there is a step that we can take that will save even one child from what happened in newtown, we should take that step. >> that was earlier this week. in signing those executive actions on gun control, we were reminded that president obama doesn't shy away from a fight, no matter how difficult it may with. and there's no wonder, after all, this is a man who's accomplished health care reform a century in the making. >> we are a nation that does what is hard, what is necessary, what is right. we have now just enshrined, as soon as i sign this bill, the core principle that everybody should have some basic security when it comes to their health care. >> our president did all of that while facing a party whose number one goal was to defeat him with billionaires spending mountains of money against him. with being called a food stamp president. with people questioning the country of his
extending long term unemployment benefits, bringing about tax cuts for small businesses and the middle class. he's had the american's people's interest at heart. and we were reminded of that again today. >> if there is a step that we can take that will save even one child from what happened in newtown, we should take that step. >> that was earlier this week. in signing those executive actions on gun control, we were reminded that president obama doesn't shy away from a fight, no...
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promises considered, mostly clept, more jobs and a middle class tax break, ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan and, of course, making health care accessible for all. tomorrow morning the president will be making even more promises. the question though, can he keep them? back with me now bill schneider, resident fellow for the think tank and lynn sweet of the chicago sun times." bill, your organization spends a fair amount of time on important issues of the day. what promises can we expect to hear from president obama tomorrow? >> immigration reform. i mean, that's something he neglected in his first term and didn't give it any real priority, and it's very important. really helped him get elected, re-elected rather. guns will come up, i think, because the mood is right for that. i'm not sure how far he'll be able to go with that because of the resistance in the house, but he'll fight the good fight on that issue, and he'll talk about doing two things at once which will be difficult to balance. one, jobs and economic recovery. two, bring down the debt and deficit spending. those are
promises considered, mostly clept, more jobs and a middle class tax break, ending the wars in iraq and afghanistan and, of course, making health care accessible for all. tomorrow morning the president will be making even more promises. the question though, can he keep them? back with me now bill schneider, resident fellow for the think tank and lynn sweet of the chicago sun times." bill, your organization spends a fair amount of time on important issues of the day. what promises can we...
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on the one side republicans are saying taxes cannot be considered a part of the equation, and we need to cut spending dollar for dollar for any debt ceiling increase. >> right. the president is saying revenues must be part of an equation, and he does not want to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. so what do they say, skip congress all together because they can't get it done. >> manu raju of politico and marilyn of "roll call," thank you both very much. president obama may have a new immigration plan in the works and what does that mean for his second agenda? and you may have more cash to put in the bank. after the break we'll examine the reason why. you're watching the place for politics. reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it.
on the one side republicans are saying taxes cannot be considered a part of the equation, and we need to cut spending dollar for dollar for any debt ceiling increase. >> right. the president is saying revenues must be part of an equation, and he does not want to use the debt ceiling as a bargaining chip. so what do they say, skip congress all together because they can't get it done. >> manu raju of politico and marilyn of "roll call," thank you both very much. president...
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we are passed the point where we have to work so hard to pay $3 for a poll tax receipt. but it sends a message to america that even though we have moved forward, be aware and guard your rights because there are different methods of disenfranchisement. >> well, i think when you walk on that stage and that platform, it symbolizes and personifies all of that. myrlie, congratulations on your honor. thank you for being you. half a century later, looking great and standing up for the dream of medgar evers. >> and thank you for you. >> we'll be right back. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or turn 30-million artifacts... ♪ into a high-tech masterpiece? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. wears off. [ female announcer ] stop searching and start repairing. eucerin professional repair moisturizes while actually repairing very dry skin. the end of trial and error has arrived. try a free sample at eucerinus.com.
we are passed the point where we have to work so hard to pay $3 for a poll tax receipt. but it sends a message to america that even though we have moved forward, be aware and guard your rights because there are different methods of disenfranchisement. >> well, i think when you walk on that stage and that platform, it symbolizes and personifies all of that. myrlie, congratulations on your honor. thank you for being you. half a century later, looking great and standing up for the dream of...
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it's not all tax reform or spending. there's talk that the obama administration is making a push on early childhood administration. if you can do that in a big way is the single best investment we can make. obviously immigration reform is something on the table that gets talked about. immigrants are incredibly important to the economy. so, if you can do that, again, it would be a huge boom to the economy. one of the questions, in terms of a better growth pattern, whether we can get out of the deficit conversation. one smart thing republicans have done here is enforcing it to be an endless series of self-endeuced crises. there's no other agenda. it sucks up all of washington. >> that's the problem with the three month extension. the republicans blinking and suggesting i want to fight this debt ceiling on this debt ceiling front, which would be good. they are going to keep us going every three months. we never get around to talking about the larger economic question. >> i don't want to have that conversation in the context
it's not all tax reform or spending. there's talk that the obama administration is making a push on early childhood administration. if you can do that in a big way is the single best investment we can make. obviously immigration reform is something on the table that gets talked about. immigrants are incredibly important to the economy. so, if you can do that, again, it would be a huge boom to the economy. one of the questions, in terms of a better growth pattern, whether we can get out of the...
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it is the party of lower taxes. but there are a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, also paying lots of taxes relative to their income. and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change there are a lot of things that the american people are expecting and the republican party, as they get ready for the next election, really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. everybody wants to talk about who is going to be the candidate you better think first about what's the party actually going to represent? if it's just gonna represent the far right-wing of the political spectrum, i think the party is in difficulty. i'm a moderate but i'm still a republican, that's how i was raised. until i voted for mr. obama twice i voted for seven straight republican presidents. >> a couple of other foreign policy matters, what should the force, u.s. force in afghanistan look like after next yea
it is the party of lower taxes. but there are a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, also paying lots of taxes relative to their income. and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change there are a lot of things that the american people are expecting and the republican party, as they get ready for the next election, really has to focus on some of these issues and not...
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you think this president -- we'll talk about it, but do you think he'll get there on immigration, on tax reform, when all the issues we have been arguing? >> i do think so. i think, you have talked about this, i think ronald reagan's experience was, yes, being a movie actor, but more important was being a labor negotiator. with the soviet union, with the congress, he did what he did with jack warner back in hollywood in the 1940s, was he asked for 100 and got 50. and getting 50 when you're president as we know is a pretty powerful achievement. what is barack obama? in life he's a writer and a professor. and writers and professors think in a more complex term, they reach more new nuance positions, and the president knows at heart he's a storyteller and analyst, that if he wants history to remember this presidency well he's got to make these compromises. >> that's great, at the end of the write-up, it was president carter losing office to reagan. and reagan coming into office and filling the time he talked about the old days of hollywood in the car driving up. typically howard baker in the
you think this president -- we'll talk about it, but do you think he'll get there on immigration, on tax reform, when all the issues we have been arguing? >> i do think so. i think, you have talked about this, i think ronald reagan's experience was, yes, being a movie actor, but more important was being a labor negotiator. with the soviet union, with the congress, he did what he did with jack warner back in hollywood in the 1940s, was he asked for 100 and got 50. and getting 50 when...
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they couldn't win that battle regarding taxes. with this one, they have leverage. >> they thought it was their leverage but still when you go in to this debate, tamron, they control only one part of the government. it's a house of representatives. democrats control the senate. they control the white house. so while house republicans do have some leverage, we also learned something from the fiscal cliff negotiations that john boner's willing to bring legislation to the floor that doesn't have this majority of support from the party and pretty big, as well. >> all right. mark, thank you very much. greatly appreciate it. talk to you tomorrow on these things. >>> former president george h.w. bush has now been released from the hospital in houston today and headed home. mr. bush was admitted to the hospital around thanksgiving, suffering from a severe case of bronchitis. in the stay, developed a fever. doctors say he'll continue physical therapy at home. mr. bush is 88 years old. >>> my starting point is not to worry about the politics
they couldn't win that battle regarding taxes. with this one, they have leverage. >> they thought it was their leverage but still when you go in to this debate, tamron, they control only one part of the government. it's a house of representatives. democrats control the senate. they control the white house. so while house republicans do have some leverage, we also learned something from the fiscal cliff negotiations that john boner's willing to bring legislation to the floor that doesn't...
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we kept middle class taxes low. we insured that every working family across the country had a little bit more money in their pocket to get through some of the tough times. we enacted health care reform. these are real things that we did to take steps to move our country forward. this is what the american people voted for. they voted for change and they voted for action, and stloetd for a pretty specific agenda. >> i wanted to also ask you about valerie jarrett's interview with politico and mike allen. she really pushed back hard on the argument that there have not been so far enough women in key roles throughout the cabinet. i'm not talking about the whole cabinet, but the lead four. now we look at dennis mcdonough being the chief of staff. on the frontline, not enough women. she points out in her comments to mike allen and jim vaned high, i don't play golf. i don't play basketball. i don't really play cards. i don't think anybody questions whether i have a role to play here. it's irrelevant whether the president wa
we kept middle class taxes low. we insured that every working family across the country had a little bit more money in their pocket to get through some of the tough times. we enacted health care reform. these are real things that we did to take steps to move our country forward. this is what the american people voted for. they voted for change and they voted for action, and stloetd for a pretty specific agenda. >> i wanted to also ask you about valerie jarrett's interview with politico...
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in terms of tax rates. so fairness would be a part of -- >> that's established. now we're ready for the medicare reform, right? >> well, i guess we're ready to start talking about them joe. >> mark i love what you've written. obama's moment to call us to a greater collective commitment. i think this really resonates with something we've been yearning for on the show. you say this. to borrow a signature phrase let me be clear, this day is not about him, it's about us our nation, our future. where do we go from here? what is the right path forward? how do we come together? here's what i do want to hear. the word "we." a call to a greater collective commitment, a recognition of the sacrifices to come a signal of willingness nessness to do the unpopular to take on his political base a surprise or two, humility faith, gratitude, and keep it short. how great a legacy to leave to call together an anxious nation to calm the divide and ask brothers to lay down their arms to inspire them to a greater cause, to fight
in terms of tax rates. so fairness would be a part of -- >> that's established. now we're ready for the medicare reform, right? >> well, i guess we're ready to start talking about them joe. >> mark i love what you've written. obama's moment to call us to a greater collective commitment. i think this really resonates with something we've been yearning for on the show. you say this. to borrow a signature phrase let me be clear, this day is not about him, it's about us our...
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i think the main reason that they -- they don't want fica taxes to get so low that people get used to paying an amount that can't fund the social security trust fund. it's odd because of all the things we discussed in the fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> most of them wish use that might affect economic growth in the future. this was a tax that, according to most people rating it, was worth about 0.8 points of economic growth, and they -- no one talked about it. >> few were talking about it. they were just trying to get to a deal as you're saying there now, dave. now we're seeing this real impact on the paychecks, might there be political backlash from voters for the president or for republicans on this. i almost said the beauty. kind of using the word ironically. the beauty of this issue like this where neither party advocated for it. neither party thinks they can be blamed. >> hurt by it. >> we know what republicans propose in various rounds of fiscal cliff negotiations, and they never proposed an extension to this. they could cynically say, look, and you hear some kind of republican pundit
i think the main reason that they -- they don't want fica taxes to get so low that people get used to paying an amount that can't fund the social security trust fund. it's odd because of all the things we discussed in the fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> most of them wish use that might affect economic growth in the future. this was a tax that, according to most people rating it, was worth about 0.8 points of economic growth, and they -- no one talked about it. >> few were talking...
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in favor of boosting sales tax rates. free market economists have praised the idea, but liberal economists say poor people would be bearing the brunt of the cost because they spent a greater share of income on consumer goods. can i stop here for one second? >> uh-huh. >> steve rattner, here's a great example. bobby jindal, like me, a really conservative guy economically. but has come out and spoken out against the stupid wing of the republican party. he's been very responsible. remember right after the election? >> yeah. >> like come on, we have got to be more inclusive, guys, and got to stop being the stupid party. here's a great example. you can disagree with bobby jindal on economics, which i'm sure you do -- >> right. >> -- because he's a lot like me, but you can respect bobby jindal as being a smart guy who wants to expand the party and be more inclusive. >> yeah. i agree. i respect him for all those things. and i think he is part of the future of the party. this particular proposal, i think what you said about it is
in favor of boosting sales tax rates. free market economists have praised the idea, but liberal economists say poor people would be bearing the brunt of the cost because they spent a greater share of income on consumer goods. can i stop here for one second? >> uh-huh. >> steve rattner, here's a great example. bobby jindal, like me, a really conservative guy economically. but has come out and spoken out against the stupid wing of the republican party. he's been very responsible....
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to work hard and raise children and pay taxes without having a vote in congress. director katherine bigelow's film zero dark 30 glorifies torture. she said she is a pacifist and supports protests against torture, but writes i do wonder if some of the sentiment expressed about the film might be more appropriately directed as those who institute and ordered these u.s. policies as opposed to a motion picture that brings the story to the screen. those are things we thought you should know. time now for the gut check. the president called for sweeping new legislation to curb gun violence and ask lawmakers to take the next step. >> to make a real and lasting dnchs, congress too must act and act soon. >> i'm calling to ask proposals right away. >> what does your gut tell you? will republicans give any support to the president's proposa proposals? go to facebook.com/"news nation" and we will have the results tomorrow. that does it for this erkz additi edition of "news nation." the cycle is up next. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll als
to work hard and raise children and pay taxes without having a vote in congress. director katherine bigelow's film zero dark 30 glorifies torture. she said she is a pacifist and supports protests against torture, but writes i do wonder if some of the sentiment expressed about the film might be more appropriately directed as those who institute and ordered these u.s. policies as opposed to a motion picture that brings the story to the screen. those are things we thought you should know. time now...
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obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he is just another elitest hypocrite when it comes to protection for their kids. >> the nra suffered a big loss in new york today with governor andrew cuomo signing into law the toughest gun control legislation in the country, strengthening the state's existing assault weapons ban. >> going to put rules in place that actually protect innocent people in society. that is what the state of new york is doing today. and it says common sense can win. and good people can win. and you can actually get government to work and get good things to happen. you can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense. >> the nra immediately released this statement. these gun control schemes have failed in the past and will have no impact on public safety and crime, sadly, the new york legislature gave no consideration to that reality while lawmakers could have taken a step towards strengthening mental health reporting. instead, they opted for stopping the rights of gun owners and they did it under a veil of secre
obama demands the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes, but he is just another elitest hypocrite when it comes to protection for their kids. >> the nra suffered a big loss in new york today with governor andrew cuomo signing into law the toughest gun control legislation in the country, strengthening the state's existing assault weapons ban. >> going to put rules in place that actually protect innocent people in society. that is what the state of new york is doing today. and it says...
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as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's message is out of sync with that heartbeat, and i think there are ways and opportunities for them to get back in sync to lay out that concern about the second amendment and why the protection is important, but put it out there in the context of those kids who were killed because that's what people see most of all. >> let's talk about the president's strength now. bob, this monday and -- this tuesday he will have taken the oath a second time. the american people have doubled down on this president, a majority of the american people have voted for this guy. two majority votes. he will have that in his poc
as i said the other night, if only the corporations set corporate tax law, it would be pretty low. if only the gun guys set gun laws, there aren't going to be any gun laws. the people who don't own guns or own guns casually will have to do something. >> that's exactly right. that's what the president has taken away from the lessons of newtown. listening to the heartbeat of the people on this right now. you can see it in the polls. you hear it in the language, and right now the gop's...
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i will cut taxes, cut taxes, for 95% of all working families because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes. >> those tax breaks were made permanent and this new year's day fiscal cliff deal. the president also secured an extension of small business traction credits. fulfilling a prom fris the same speech. economy has posted job increases every month since late 2010. although this recovery is still very slow. president's promise to bring a responsible end to the war in iraq was the centerpiece of the 2008 campaign and the issue he used to draw clear distinctions with john mccain as president he kept that promise. he pulled the last combat troops out of iraq in december of 2011. he's also made strides towards ending the u.s. role in afghanistan and that's not over yet. indicated that troops may start coming home this spring. then will's health care. promise then senator obama made when he first announced his candidacy nearly six years ago. >> let's be the generation that says right here, right now, we will have universal health care in by the end of the next
i will cut taxes, cut taxes, for 95% of all working families because in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes. >> those tax breaks were made permanent and this new year's day fiscal cliff deal. the president also secured an extension of small business traction credits. fulfilling a prom fris the same speech. economy has posted job increases every month since late 2010. although this recovery is still very slow. president's promise to bring a responsible end to...
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we can be for lower taxes, less government, less regulation. we can agree on that. but that is sick. why don't they call him up and say shut up once in awhile. your thoughts? >> they should. and if rush limbaugh actually saw that classroom after that morning, the reality of the situation that we're talking about. >> two to eleven bullets in each kid. unrecognizable children. remember being in first grade? >> i have a son who's there. >> we all remember it a little bit. in a powerful moment today the president spoke about meeting the parents of newtown victim grace mcdonnell. there she is. let's take a look. >> grace was seven years old when she was struck down. just a gorgeous, caring, joyful little girl. i'm told she loved pink. she loved the beach. she dreamed of becoming a painter. chris, her father, gave me one of her paintings. and i hung it in my private study just off the oval office. and every time i look at that painting, i think about grace. and i think about the life that she lived and the life that lay ahead of her. and most of all i think about how when
we can be for lower taxes, less government, less regulation. we can agree on that. but that is sick. why don't they call him up and say shut up once in awhile. your thoughts? >> they should. and if rush limbaugh actually saw that classroom after that morning, the reality of the situation that we're talking about. >> two to eleven bullets in each kid. unrecognizable children. remember being in first grade? >> i have a son who's there. >> we all remember it a little bit....
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on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times, quote, we're saying calibrate your message, focus on long-term spending instead of long-term debt. focusing on the debt ceiling makes the message more difficult. when i asked walden about the debt ceiling yesterday, he was clearly noncommittal, hinting on where the republican leadership maybe is on this. if there's not a majority in the house republican to raise the debt limit, but there is a majority in the house of representatives to raise a clean debt limit, would this leadership be willing to do that? >> you know, let's look at how do we avoid default on america and american's deb
on the tax deal, house republican leaders had political cover from senate republicans. on sandy, chris christie provided the political cover, leaving house leaders, frankly, cowering. now the kotch brothers, through a group they backed, called americans for prosperity, are the latest to give boehner and other house leaders cover on the debt ceiling, as they get their rank and file to pick other political fights. tim phillips, president of americans for prosperity, told the financial times,...
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, that we've got to fight to cut corporate tax rates, we've got to inform entitlements, we've got to do these things i think conservatives are best suited to do, instead of being engaged on fights on the periphery. we've got to narrow our focus and get back to first principles, and if we don't do that, the republican party's going to be in the minority for a very long time. >> joe scarborough from "morning joe," i like "afternoon joe" too. thank you very much. >> i like your time slot a lot better than ours, actually. 1:00's okay. >> try it some time, sleep in a bit. >> i'd like to. >>> coming up next, the gun lobby reacts to the president's proposals and that nra ad. >>> plus, biden, bloomberg, and gabby giffords. there's a trio inside "time's" special edition on gun control. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. i'm up next, but now i'm singing the heartburn blues. hold on, prilosec isn't for fast relief. cue up alka-seltzer. it stops heartburn fast. ♪ oh what a relief it is! maybe you want to incorporate a business. or protect your family with a will or living trust.
, that we've got to fight to cut corporate tax rates, we've got to inform entitlements, we've got to do these things i think conservatives are best suited to do, instead of being engaged on fights on the periphery. we've got to narrow our focus and get back to first principles, and if we don't do that, the republican party's going to be in the minority for a very long time. >> joe scarborough from "morning joe," i like "afternoon joe" too. thank you very much. >>...
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will john boehner at the end of the day have to do what he did with the tax bill, which is basically cede control of the house more or less to the democrats and have most of his party vote against something but allow a vote to come up that will let democrats and nancy pelosi yet again rescue the day. >> okay, jared. i want to play you something the president said on monday. you referenced it yourself. take a listen. >> they will not collect or ransom an exchange for not crashing the american economy. the financial well-being of the american people is not leverage to be used. >> jared, i put it to you, do they not realize this fight isn't just hurting the economy. it's also helping this president look like the only grown-up in washington. >> i don't think they're calculus on this stuff is as rational as your question suggests, of course. but, again, if you actually get out of this beltway, and i try to do it as much as possible, and talk to people, the question i consistently get is why doesn't washington really care about the problems that we face? and when you mention recent housing
will john boehner at the end of the day have to do what he did with the tax bill, which is basically cede control of the house more or less to the democrats and have most of his party vote against something but allow a vote to come up that will let democrats and nancy pelosi yet again rescue the day. >> okay, jared. i want to play you something the president said on monday. you referenced it yourself. take a listen. >> they will not collect or ransom an exchange for not crashing the...
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as for the bill itself, the pathway to citizenship would come with a payment of fines and back taxes. the bill would also include a nationwide legal verification system for all newly hired workers. additional visas for highly skilled immigrants and a guest worker program. top senate democrat harry reid sounded optimistic about its passage. >> tentatively on a path to citizenship which has been a stumbling block. we need to promote bipartisan bills quicker than you think. >> you are confident this will amount to something substantial? >> we'll do something significant. >> then again, there's always the lower chamber. according to texas congressman lamar smith, any bill with a pathway to citizenship will have a hard time passing. phil, the georgia republican who weighed in so very eloquently on todd aken's rape comments this weekend, told the "new york times" he remains opposed to amnesty of any kind. joining us now is telemundo jose diaz. it is always a good day when you are on this program, my friend. great to see you. >> thank you so much. thank you so much. >> jose, let me ask you -
as for the bill itself, the pathway to citizenship would come with a payment of fines and back taxes. the bill would also include a nationwide legal verification system for all newly hired workers. additional visas for highly skilled immigrants and a guest worker program. top senate democrat harry reid sounded optimistic about its passage. >> tentatively on a path to citizenship which has been a stumbling block. we need to promote bipartisan bills quicker than you think. >> you are...
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tells him how much he's allowed to collect in taxes. he says there's a difference there. i have to borrow it. no, you can't borrow that. the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at the federal reserve allowing the government to pay off bills should congress fail to act. over the weekend the treasury d department ruled out the idea. >>> before we go to break. shoot me an e-mail at waytooearly@msnbc and let me know why you're awake. you can also tweet me. >>> still ahead on "way too early," a wild weekend for the nfl as the atlanta fallons break their playoff slump in dramatic fashion. i'll bring you all the weekend highlights next in sports, if i make it. >>> and it was a big night for fans of "homeland" and a little-known show called "game change." we'll also get a ch
tells him how much he's allowed to collect in taxes. he says there's a difference there. i have to borrow it. no, you can't borrow that. the whole debt ceiling thing itself is a crazy thing. it forces the president to do something illegal, either to defy congress on what it told him to spend or defy congress and borrow when it told him not to. >> krugman was one of the leading proponents of the trillion dollar coin idea which involved minting a platinum coin which would be deposited at...
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a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, who are also paying lots of taxes relative to their income, and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change. there are a lot of things that the american penal are expecting, and the republican party as they get ready for the next election really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. >> chris, what's sad to me about that is that by virtue of mentioning the phrase climate change, it's almost like colin powell has kicked himself out of the republican party. this party used to play ball on that issue. now they're denying the actual science behind it. they have swung so far right, and my question after all of this, after that interview which was incendiary and was very much a line in the sand for the gop -- >> it's history making. >> when will the republican party admit they have a problem? because every time something like this happens, there is a doubling down, there is a defense, there is an attack on th
a lot of people who are lower down the food chain, the economic chain, who are also paying lots of taxes relative to their income, and they need help. we need more education work being done in this country. we need a solid immigration policy. we have to look at climate change. there are a lot of things that the american penal are expecting, and the republican party as they get ready for the next election really has to focus on some of these issues and not ignore them. >> chris, what's sad...
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. >> stop cap and tax! stop cap and tax. >> meanwhile, across the country, a new political force was mobilizing, the tea party movement, who aimed to push the government further to the right. >> stop spending money, now. >> in the 2010 midterm elections, the republicans, many backed by the tea party, won the house and weakened the democrats in the senate. most of these freshman came to washington now, not to meet and negotiate, but to demolish a government they saw as bloated, rotten, tyrannical. >> the reason we came here, the new freshman are here, is because the american people said, enough. >> can you hear us now? can you hear us now? >> sometimes the opposition to the president took an uglier, even racist tone. false claims first heard during the campaign reemerged, questioning obama's religion, denying he was born in the country. >> he is not an american citizen! he is a citizen of kenya! >> did it surprise you that at this point in our history, they would try to de-americanize this guy? did it surpri
. >> stop cap and tax! stop cap and tax. >> meanwhile, across the country, a new political force was mobilizing, the tea party movement, who aimed to push the government further to the right. >> stop spending money, now. >> in the 2010 midterm elections, the republicans, many backed by the tea party, won the house and weakened the democrats in the senate. most of these freshman came to washington now, not to meet and negotiate, but to demolish a government they saw as...
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know our neighbors, the congressman in the next district, however it works, why would i pay higher taxes for your kids to go to school? why would you sacrifice something for me to get health care? >> why would you believe if i told you i would be with you the next time? developing relations. >> not just legislative, culture. you have to know each other for a republic to work. don't have to love each other but have to feel neighborliness. >> that's a good point. look at congress. there was a time members of congress lived in washington. now, it's a three-day workweek e essenti essentially, tuesday, wednesday, thursday, they're on planes back to their districts, no matter how far away for the four-day weekend. they don't spend that much time together, don't spend that much time in washington like they used to. the old sort of image of the washington dinner party in georgetown, where decisions are made and even where friendships and bonds are created that lead to those decisions, that's kind of out-dated. >> it's the politics. the problem is it's us in the media. if they get together. this
know our neighbors, the congressman in the next district, however it works, why would i pay higher taxes for your kids to go to school? why would you sacrifice something for me to get health care? >> why would you believe if i told you i would be with you the next time? developing relations. >> not just legislative, culture. you have to know each other for a republic to work. don't have to love each other but have to feel neighborliness. >> that's a good point. look at...
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i wasn't separating out about the specifics of entitlement reform and tax reform from the larger issue of how to bring the middle class back, because they are all tied together, david. you can't have one without the other. >> i understand. but the republican thinking in congress has been that the cuts are enough. and that is not the answer. >> no, no, i couldn't agree more. if you take just education and job creation, for example, there is going to be a sea change in american education, which is already underway. go long on community colleges. >> yes. >> developing a skill set. >> yes. we need to support that. and we need to support that, but i need to challenge one thing -- >> medicaid and medicare together. medicare and medicaid together. within 10 years, it devours every cent. >> there's a progressive argument for dealing with that issue. >> which is what? when are we going to hear it? >> well, i want to challenge you and you as well, david, on this point. >> challenge the president, david. >> no, you and you. the premise that the president has not been venturesome in this area, has
i wasn't separating out about the specifics of entitlement reform and tax reform from the larger issue of how to bring the middle class back, because they are all tied together, david. you can't have one without the other. >> i understand. but the republican thinking in congress has been that the cuts are enough. and that is not the answer. >> no, no, i couldn't agree more. if you take just education and job creation, for example, there is going to be a sea change in american...
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claim the airline is buying its jet fuel 70 miles away to avoid paying close to $300 million in sales taxes. the airline says the suit's claims are untrue. >>> students at the university of vermont should not bring bottled water had they return to campus because the school has banned its sale for environmental reasons. vermont is the largest public university to prohibit bottled water sales on campus. they've even converted water fountains to bottle-filling stations. >>> over to wall street this tuesday morning. the dow opens the day at 13,507 after adding 18 points yesterday. the s&p and nasdaq were both down. overseas the nikkei gained 77 points but the hang seng fell 31. >>> the nasdaq and the s&p slipped monday thanks to worries that apple has gone sour. shares of the tech titan dipped below 500 for the first time in nearly a year after reports the company has cut orders for iphone parts due to weak demand. >>> meanwhile, pc maker dell surged 13% on fresh takeover talk. after the bell, fed chief ben bernanke praised washington's recent fiscal cliff deal which he said probably would have
claim the airline is buying its jet fuel 70 miles away to avoid paying close to $300 million in sales taxes. the airline says the suit's claims are untrue. >>> students at the university of vermont should not bring bottled water had they return to campus because the school has banned its sale for environmental reasons. vermont is the largest public university to prohibit bottled water sales on campus. they've even converted water fountains to bottle-filling stations. >>> over...
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because in our budget that we will pass, we will lift tax reform, which many of my republican colleagues liked, but it will include revenues. it's a great opportunity to get us more revenues to help in part deal with sequestration and deal with the issue of -- >> but senator schumer, the point, and i want to get senator cruz's response here, but the reality is that the president is willing to throw the long ball on this big sunday of football, when it comes the gun control. and yet because of his view of republican recalcitrants, he doesn't step up and show real leadership and be proactive on a big spending cut proposal and medicare cut proposal because he doesn't want to go there. why throw the long ball when it comes to gun control but not take a leadership role when it comes to spending cuts? >> well, he is. in the negotiations up to the fiscal cliff, the president put things on the table. $400 billion in medicare cuts. he was talking about change cpi, which -- >> you're talking about more revenue. that's not big enough on medicare cuts according to es bowles and others. if you're goi
because in our budget that we will pass, we will lift tax reform, which many of my republican colleagues liked, but it will include revenues. it's a great opportunity to get us more revenues to help in part deal with sequestration and deal with the issue of -- >> but senator schumer, the point, and i want to get senator cruz's response here, but the reality is that the president is willing to throw the long ball on this big sunday of football, when it comes the gun control. and yet...
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let's start with the campaign push for this because we did see it work to help raise taxes on the rich. what does the president need to do this time around, do you think, patricia? >> i think he really needs to change the dynamic of what senators and congressmen are hearing from their constituents, and we see him doing that. the president knows when we look at national polls, the majority of americans are in favor of stricter gun control, but in states that are dedicated to keeping their majority, colorado, it can really the democrats can really unwilling to tackle this issue. >> let me play a little bit of the president's pitch from yesterday. >> ask them what's more important. doing whatever it takes to get a a grade from the gun lobby that funds their campaignings? or giving parents some peace of mind when they drop their child off for first grade? >> we're asking congress for a -- universal background checks. what are the chances he gets any or all of those? >> i think it's important to take a look at what's important this time around compared to the last time around there was so m
let's start with the campaign push for this because we did see it work to help raise taxes on the rich. what does the president need to do this time around, do you think, patricia? >> i think he really needs to change the dynamic of what senators and congressmen are hearing from their constituents, and we see him doing that. the president knows when we look at national polls, the majority of americans are in favor of stricter gun control, but in states that are dedicated to keeping their...
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they could say we'll do it differently, taxes, spending. it's less than $1.2 trillion. they have the power of negotiation over that or else that kicks in automatically. or the continuing resolution that funds the government is going to expire at the end of march. so again, republicans and they did this in early 2011 a couple of times. republicans could walk up to the line to shut the government down for a few days if the demand aren't met and tried in it 1995. these are the leverage points, none of this is healthy for governance but talking about using the debt ceiling for leverage, you're talking about completely and totally changing the basic norms of how congressional parties behave and flirting with economic catastrophe so the challenge for john boehner and the republicans who do at a certain level know better try somehow to get the republican caucus to fix on the sequester an the continuing resolution and not make it about the debt ceiling. >> let's hear from the world's foremost expert on the politically disastrous consequences of shutting down the government, new
they could say we'll do it differently, taxes, spending. it's less than $1.2 trillion. they have the power of negotiation over that or else that kicks in automatically. or the continuing resolution that funds the government is going to expire at the end of march. so again, republicans and they did this in early 2011 a couple of times. republicans could walk up to the line to shut the government down for a few days if the demand aren't met and tried in it 1995. these are the leverage points,...
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that was something that boehner tried to do with his whole plan "b" during the tax thing. and when he couldn't do that, then suddenly he lost all leverage. so that's the name of the game number one. and then the second part is what david was talking about there, which is they are trying to figure out how to basically move away from the debt limit as a part of this argument, and that's -- it's easier said than done. they know where they should be having this spending argument, and that is with funding the government. whether they can get the rank and file to that place is another story. and that's why the white house's strategy is go ahead and pass something. you've got that whole dollar-for-dollar spending cuts to debt limit, go ahead and give it a shot. see how you come up with it because the white house doesn't believe that boehner can pass a bill that even meets his own standard of dollar for dollar. >> and i would just add, i think the view among top republicans, republican leaders, is that the well is so poisoned by president obama. i mean, this goes beyond, you know,
that was something that boehner tried to do with his whole plan "b" during the tax thing. and when he couldn't do that, then suddenly he lost all leverage. so that's the name of the game number one. and then the second part is what david was talking about there, which is they are trying to figure out how to basically move away from the debt limit as a part of this argument, and that's -- it's easier said than done. they know where they should be having this spending argument, and that...